An open letter to Jigme Y.Thinley

By T.P. Mishra
The Prime Minister of Bhutan
Dear Mr. Thinley,
Please acknowledge my tardy wishes, both congratulations and appreciations, for serving the country in the aptitude of the first elected prime minister of a “democratic” Bhutan. In many areas in the country, some positive changes, which are noticeable, have taken place. This is an appreciating initiative. Honestly, you should, however, admit that the phenomenon of modern democracy is yet to be ushered in true guts.

Discrimination on suppressed ethnic groups continues in “democratic” Bhutan. The towering power and monarchy’s direct influence in active politics keeps going. The formation of the Bhutanese Media Foundation under the king’s initiation is an instance. The public’s fundamental rights, in many aspects, have not yet been guaranteed in the practical sense. The question of safeguarding national sovereignty is doubtful — foreign intervention in our politics is the same despite your claim that the country has stepped into the democratisation process.

Initially, your recent visit to Nepal had given hope to the Bhutanese refugees because many had thought that you would present yourself intrepid to speak of their immediate return home. You did, but more in a tactical way; it could be another ploy to keep the protracted issue as it is.

Not being an exception, like in the past, you did not overlook to say that your government was committed to resolving the crisis. Just hours after paying homage to the late G.P. Koirala on the 13th day of his death, journalists in Nepal busied themselves in running after your stories. Their grave concern and continuous follow-ups to your visit developed due to your refugees camped in their country for almost two decades.

Dear sir, I was a little bit perplexed to read news stories in the mainstream media in Nepal where you were quoted as saying that the governments of both Bhutan and Nepal have given top priority to resolving the refugee crisis. You did not mention back-up points regarding how your government has been giving it top priority, though. Had it been true, the problem could have been solved many years back. You are also well aware of the fact that despite 15 rounds of Nepal-Bhutan bilateral talks, not a single refugee has been able to go back home.

I wonder for how long your “democratic” government will continue to swindle the international community by maintaining that you are solemn towards kick-starting the repatriation process at the soonest possible.

During the meeting with your Nepali counterpart, Madhav Kumar Nepal, you apparently thanked the core groups for resettling “people in the camps”, in your own words. As has been a trend in Bhutan, you were even hesitant to say “Bhutanese refugees” in the camps, thus, you addressed them as “people in the camps”. Often, politicians or media houses in Bhutan address us as “refugees in Nepal” or “people in the camps”, both of which are not the best terms. I would rather not feel odd to let you know that refugees from various countries including Tibet, Burma, Somalia and Pakistan, among others, too live in Nepal.

There was no coherent basis to thank the core groups if these refugees were not from Bhutan. At least, you deserve appreciation from the exiled Bhutanese for extending your government’s words of gratitude to the resettlement countries. At last you proved that your own regime’s proclamation, quite often, at international arenas labelling those “people in the camps” as “terrorists” is misleading. These “people in the camps” are resettled in various Western countries as refugees from Bhutan, not as terrorists.

Dear sir, I am neither a historian nor a politician. I was a five-year-old boy when my father, besides thousands of others, was brutally tortured — both mentally and physically — for 31 days inside the “black” jail in Bhutan before he was forced to sign the so-called voluntary form at gunpoint in the early 1990s, the time when the mass exodus took place. What I learnt of Bhutan, though I am its genuine citizen, is only through books and from conversations with exiled Bhutanese, leaders or concerned experts.

Apparently, I might be too immature to remind you about the history, which speaks of the fact that these “people in the camps” had a bigger volume of contribution than anyone in Bhutan to drive the country to this stage. Those politicians undermining the history of these great contributors, for sure, shall be demoralised by the standard set norms and values of “true” democracy.

I wonder with whom your government holds bilateral talks. India, that has been a think tank for Bhutanese politics behind the curtain, claims the issue is a bilateral one between Nepal and Bhutan, citing the fact that a majority of your refugees dwell in Nepal. If you are updated, a clear majority among 108,000 persons will soon reach the U.S. through the third country resettlement programme. Does this now mean, according to India’s definition, that the bilateral talks should be between your government and the US?

I believe you can’t deceive the US, the world’s biggest democracy, as you did to Nepal, which was an all-time-rubberstamp during 15 rounds of bilateral talks. There isn’t any alternative for your government except to expedite the dignified repatriation process through which those willing to go back home will remain blissful.

Thank you in advance for creating this opportunity to write you an open letter. However, I do not wish to keep writing the same way.

Yours kindly,
T.P. Mishra

(This write-up appeared in today’s ‘Kathmandu Post’, a leading Nepali National Daily.The author is the founder/president of the Bhutan Chapter of the Third World Media Network and author of ‘Becoming a Journalist in Exile’)

51 Responses

  1. thanks, for not publishing…….. i dunno y u didn’t publish,article i wrote here being disagree. but really made me feel true sense of free expression.cool. this is free expression site right? Nice notice board. is it just for staff site only?
    Anyway nice appreciation site…….” u don’t have right to oppose their expression.”good unseen logo.

  2. Dear SALINA CHHETRI Jee:

    Who are you talking to?

    I hope you are not criticizing me over my response to Mr. TP Mishra.

    If that is the case, I acknowldege your concern. You are right. None of us readers should be addressing to eachother to write personal stuff to eachother.

    If you were referring to someone else, let me defend whoever wrote personal stuff for Mr. TP Mishra.

    You know this website Bhutanusa.com will close on May 8, 2010, and I think it should be OK to write personal stuff like exchanging eachothers email addresses to keep in touch with eachother because after the closure of this website, it will not be possible for us readers to post comments on this website any more.

    Here is my contact address for not only one individual, named, TP Mishra, but for all of the readers of Bhutanusa@com who want to keep in touch with me:

    Just type in
    Shahid M. Pasha
    in the search window of Facebook.com, and you will find my page there.

    I would love to keep in touch with all of you, including those of you, who criticized my cooments and of course those who admired my comments.

    God Bless Bhutanese/Nepalese people living here in USA, in the camps in Nepal, and anywhere else in the world.

    Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield,Massachusetts, USA 01085.

    Great job,,,, why wont you better write personal letter to TP misra rather than making ur big bang personal stuff? i wish to see general issue in this site…. . i hope u would u would more deserve this.

  3. Dear Mr. T.P. Mishra:

    You are busy there like a bee, and here Bhutanusa@com will be closing on May 8, 2010.

    I hope some miracle happens and this website continues serving Bhutanese community.

    I will miss this website a lot if it closes.

    Thanks to Editor-In-Chief, Mr. Promod, the editor, Mr. Tilak Poudel Chhetree and all others at Bhutanusa@com.

    Your article, “An open letter to Jigme Y.Thinley” has generated almost 50 responses, and it shows you have done a great job and have written something that has touched the hearts of many readers.

    Keep up the good work. And please, please, do not hold any grudge against me. We both are writers and writers must not dislike each other.

    You and other readers can visit me by visiting Facebook.com. Just type in my name, Shahid M. Pasha, and you will see me there.

    Take care all of you.

    God Bless all of the Bhutanese people living here in USA and other parts of the world.

    Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

  4. Sahid sir,
    I remain extremely busy as “bee” in a new project, thus, even I am failing to read your recent comments. Will communicate you in e-mail, if needed.

    Regards,
    TP Mishra

    • hi sir,
      you can contact me in the following address. stick@live.com.world

    • Great job,,,, why wont you better write personal letter to TP misra rather than making ur big bang personal stuff? i wish to see general issue in this site…. . i hope u would u would more deserve this.
      thanks.

  5. Shahid ji,
    Thanks. The only thing I can tell you right now is that people like you will never be allowed to represent “Bhutanese refugees.” After all, you intension is again to become a leader for these innocent folks?

    I have decided to contact some Bhutanese friends in Westfield, MA to ask them about your activities and involvement towards the good of the resettled bhutanese and to our issue and your possible interest.

    Bhagawat Sharma

    • Dear Bhagawat Sharma:

      In response to your statement, “I have decided to contact some Bhutanese friends in Westfield, MA to ask them about your activities and involvement towards the good of the resettled Bhutanese and to our issue and your possible interest”.

      I must suggest you that before you start spying on me, and contact Bhutanese people living in Westfield, Massachusetts to extract personal information on me please make yourself familiar with laws that protect an individual’s privacy.

      I also request Bhutanusa@com’s administration that they should make sure that no reader including Bhagawat Sharma would be able to post any personal information on me that could cause damage to my reputation.

      Bhagaw Sharma Jee needs to understand the fact that we are here just to express our opinions and we do not need to get personal with ach other.

      We do not need to contact each other’s personal friends to spy on each other.

      You are here in America less than a year, and you are allowed to stay here for few more weeks only, until the United States Government grants you permanent residence status, so why should you do something that could land you in jail, and then eventually could deport you back to Nepal?

      Do you really think that my Bhutanese friends living in Westfield will give you the weapons that you need to attack me?

      Every word we post on this website or other websites, becomes a personal record, and can be used in criminal complaint filed in court, by an individual or by a law enforcement officer.

      Unlike you, I will not contact your personal friends in your neighborhood to gather personal information on you, because I respect your privacy.

      Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

  6. Excellent site

  7. Dear Bhagawat Sharma:

    I never attacked you personally, and never tried to intimidate you or any other Bhutanese. I am sorry if I made you or others feel that way.

    Yes, you are right. You do not have to apply for a green card if you do not want to.

    An intending immigrant becomes a lawful permanent resident once the immigrant visa and accompanying paperwork is reviewed and endorsed by an immigration Officer. Nobody gets a green card automatically, but a refugee resettled here temporarily must apply for a green card.

    As a refugee, you are required by law to apply for permanent resident status 1 year after being admitted to the United States in refugee status. If you do not apply for a green card, you will lose your right to remain in the United States, and you will be ordered to leave the United States immediately. You can be arrested if you fail to leave United States volunteerly.

    I am not forcing you to apply for a green card, and I do not have any right to force you to apply for a green card. Even the United States Government cannot force you to apply for a green card. If you decide that you do not need a green card, simply do not apply for a green card, and just wait and watch what happens after that.

    I am not insulting you, but I am just giving you information on immigration laws. If you do not believe me, ask your caseworker or a lawyer.

    I completely understand the fact that about one hundred thousand Bhutanese refugees have faced so much difficult time as refugees for almost 18 years. And I respect them and admire them for facing hard time for so long so bravely.

    Bhutanese refugees resettled here in USA are all set because they are living a happy life in America. I am not worried about them, but I would like to see an end to the miseries of those refugees who are still living in camps, especially of those refugees who have refused to come to USA and other countries and want to go back to Bhutan.

    I never asked Bhutanese refugees to praise the king of Bhutan. I just suggested them to change their tone from aggressive to reconciliatory. I have suggested both parties, the Government of Bhutan and Bhutanese refugees who want to go back to Bhutan, to stop fighting against each other and start treating each other with respect.

    Bhutanese refugees resettled here in USA do not have to do anything with the king of Bhutan. They do not have to respect the king if they do not want to. But those refugees who want to go back to Bhutan, must realize the fact that in case the king allows them to return to Bhutan, they will be living under his rule, and in Bhutan, they will have to respect the king.

    Yes, I do have a special interest in Bhutanese refugees crisis. I love Bhutanese refugees, and I feel like I myself have become a Bhutanese. Every day, I am with my Bhutanese friends, and they have become a part of my life. I find it almost impossible to break ties with Bhutanese people.

    And yes, I want to meet the king of Bhutan. I want to meet him not because I like him very much, but I want to meet him to convince him that all of Bhutanese refugees living in the camps, should have right to return to their motherland, Bhutan with dignity and honor. I want to go to go to Bhutan to meet the king as a representative of Bhutanese refugees, and as human rights activist.

    I also would like to meet Mr. Tek Nath Rizal, Dr. Bhampa Rai, and other senior Bhutanese refugees leaders first before entering Bhutan.

    This is my dream. May be this dream will never come true. I am still waiting for the right time, and when the right time comes, I will contact United Nations, Government of Bhutan, Government of Nepal, and of course the US Embassy in Katmandu, Nepal, for their approval for my “Peace Mission”.

    If I do not get approval from all of them, obviously, it will not be possible for me to go to Bhutan.

    I am feeling sad that some readers have misunderstood my comments and now they think I am against them, and I enjoy insulting them, when in fact, it is simply not true.

    Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

  8. Shahid sir,
    thanks. I am resettled in New York as a refugee from Bhutan, who lived in Nepal for nearly two decades. It is on my hand whether or not to obtain green card or US citizenship.

    When I wish I can remain here in USA without both of these documents, which means– I will be here forever as “Bhutanese.” Please don’t attack on other’s identity/nationality. America is freedomeous country. You won’t be forced to take “this or that”. You deserve the right to obtain GC or Citizenship card.

    Please don’t force Bhutanese refugees to pray King, who all times has been proven cruel to its citizens. It is too much. I can’t force you to pray your once Army Chief Musaruff (dictator), and so is the case in our context too. If you think all resettled Bhutanese will become Americans, why should you bother that much for “Bhutanese refugee issue”? I am not attacking you personally but I am attacking your “intimidation” on our issue.

    We are fed-up with leader’s lecture and we don’t want you to preach us either. You should be having certain interest on our issue or else you will never comment this way. Let time decide this Shahid ji. You had mentioned in one comments here that you will meet king of Bhutan. Ooooops!

    Bhagawat Sharma

  9. Shahid sir,
    You are turning more over-smart. Didn’t you feel this? Let Bhutanese people decide their own fate. We are sovereign people and we really don’t want to be intimidated. Your own country, Pakistan, is traumatised with political chaos; better focus your mind towards that situation, not to ours, which is taking a positive turn.

    I appreciate Mr. Mishra’s efforts. Mishra sir, you are doing great.

    Sincerely
    Bhagawat Sharma
    New York

    • Baghawat Sharma Jee:

      If you left a refugee camp in Nepal, and now you are resettled here in America, you are not a Bhutanese or Nepali citizen any more. Now you are a permanent resident, and potential/possible citizen of United States of America.

      If you think I have no business discussing Bhutanese politics, and only you have that right, I think this is not the case.

      Let me set the record straight. I am not a Pakistani citizen anymore, but I am an American citizen now. Every time, I need to visit my native country, Pakistan, I must go to Pakistani consulate general office, New York to apply for a visa. I am required by law to register with local Police station and US Embassy in Pakistan, if I need to stay there more than just few weeks.

      I have right to express my opinion on any issue including Bhutanese politics, and not even President Obama can take my right of freedom of expression away from me.

      You are not the first one ever to attack my native country or my religion. As a matter of fact, you are the 2nd Bhutanese who has ever attacked me personally on this website.

      When someone cannot find a straight answer, or an intelligent argument, he/she finds very easy to start attacking my ethnic background.

      However, I agree with you. Mr. T.P. Mishra is doing a great service to his Bhutanese community, and I admire Mr. T.P. Mishra.

      Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

  10. Sahid ji,
    You wrote “Now, I fairly expect Mr. T P Mishra to explain why Bhutanese refugees ignored the pleas of king of Bhutan when he begged them not to leave Bhutan?”

    Can you clarify this? who told you this; person/book? I searched your name in Bhutanusa today and had a quick research on what you have been writing on our issue. Honestly, some of those comments in other posts are condemning ones, aggressive, against the sentiments of Bhutanese people.

    So, still personally I doubt about your deep-rooted interest in our issue. Above all, your sincere help to our community is commendable. Accept my appreciations!

    Regards,
    TPM

    • Dear Mr. T.P. Mishra:

      I read that statement made by a Bhutanese national on “Youtube.com”. That person made that claim that the king of Bhutan begged fleeing Bhutanese not to leave Bhutan.

      I was shocked to read your statement that

      ” I searched your name in Bhutanusa today and had a quick research on what you have been writing on our issue. Honestly, some of those comments in other posts are condemning ones, aggressive, against the sentiments of Bhutanese people.

      Mishra Jee: Please search for my comments posted on Bhutanusa@com again, and you will find my statements admiring Bhutanese refugees and wishing them well. On at least three occasions, I wrote, “God Bless all of Bhutanese and Nepali people living in Nepal and anywhere else in the world”.

      And you are trying to tell Bhutanese/Nepali people that I am against them?

      I am encouraged that most of the writers have expressed their support for me and have admired my comments, and I am thankful to all of those Bhutanese fans.

      T.P. Mishra Jee: You always have been writing against the king of Bhutan to make people hate him. I would greatly appreciate if you would please do not start writing against me. I love Bhutanese people, so please do not make them hate me by making baseless accusations.

      I am sorry if I have offended you or any other Bhutanese/Nepali reader in any way. I know I never meant any disrespect to any one.

      God Bless all the Bhutanese/Nepali people living in USA and anywhere in the world.

      Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

  11. Hi Sahid ji,
    Great to know that you have realised your own mistake. That’s a great admission. I hope you learnt so many lessons. I would always suggest you to think twice before you comment on anything. Bhutanese refugee issue is a sensitive issue, thus, you have to be little cautious while commenting on it. Thanks

    Regards,
    TP Mishra
    Now in New York City

    • Dear Mr. TP Mishra:

      Yes, I admit I was wrong for using the words, “Zabardasti”, and “Daada Geeri”, and I already have said sorry to you. But please be assured nothing will change my views. I still believe that Bhutanese refugees need to use a different tone, a soft tone, when dealing with the king of Bhutan to convince him to allow remaining refugees to return to Bhutan with honor and dignity.

      India supports the king of Bhutan. Nepal supports the king of Bhutan. And America, Russia, China and other powers do not want to get involved in this mess. So, in this case, when there is no one on your side, how you are going to fight against the king all -alone? How you are going to remove the king from power by yourself?

      Writing against the king and throwing stones at the king of Bhutan going to get you nowhere. So, let us stop calling him names, calling his regime as “Evil Empire”, and let us forget and forgive. Let us start a new chapter of peace, love and friendship.

      Mr. Tek Nath Rizal wrote a letter to the king of Bhutan, His Majesty King Jigme Singye Wangchuck, on February 26, 2004, Mr. Rizal was being very respectful to the king, and addressed the king as, “Your Majesty”.

      This kind of respect the king needs, because after all he is the king of Bhutan.

      If Bhutanese refugees use tone like, “Hey you, the bad man, Budmaash, Daada Geer, the killer, the rapist, the dictator, you must allow us to enter Bhutan or we will kick your ass”, obviously, the king will never give Bhutanese refugees what they want. But by using a polite and friendly tone, chances are that Bhutanese refugees will get something from the king.

      Now, I fairly expect Mr. T P Mishra to explain why Bhutanese refugees ignored the pleas of king of Bhutan when he begged them not to leave Bhutan? Why current refugees refused to learn Bhutanese language? And why current refugees refused to wear Bhutanese national dress, when they were living in Bhutan?

      I am not saying that this was the case, but I want Mr. T.P. Mishra to educate me and many other readers on this issue.

      At present what I am seeing here is that many Bhutanese refugees resettled here in USA, especially young women, throw away their Bhutanese/Nepali dress just one or two weeks after coming to America and start wearing American dress, like they are ashamed of kind of dress they have been wearing all their life in Nepal or in Bhutan. Why is that? Do not they wish to retain and promote their culture?

      I ask for forgiveness in advance if someone finds my statement offensive. I just want to find the truth. Hurting Bhutanese peoples feelings is not my intention.

      Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

  12. MR. MISHRAJI,

    Congrats!!! Great job……U really did it !!!

  13. we love usa, and is the truth we need to accept.

    there is a saying, ” it is not the water that makes the ship to sink, but it is the water that goes into the ship that makes the ship to sink”

    so ones negative thought on other is vicious. always be positive.

    so, mishra ji and sahid ji u both are right. coz no one is wrong in the thought as in the newtons third law of motion.

    but cant tolerate to be quiet, coz u both are so much conserned about the problem of bhutanese refugee.
    thanks a lot

    now think, after 2years, there will be no any refugees in nepal. {i guess}. many are coming to third country.

    this is a web site where all the people read and every comment comes truly from the heart.
    sahid ji i like the way u said it is the time for showing the love, tenderness and friendship. yes it is. we have to forgive and forget everything.

    the one who doesn’t forget and dont wanna accept this truth are sure will go to bhutan, by hook or crook. so it is obvious that who ever are here in usa are willingly and happily resettled.

    if any one of us are in truth of any religion, then they know that earth is created by the God. so we are his creation. where ever we are and we stand and live is our land.

    lets make our heart big, bigger and bigest to accept this truth.

    • Dear Era Ji:

      Thank you very much for appreciating my comments.

      I am glad that you also have appreciated Mr. T.P. Mishra’s comments.

      I think Mr. T.P.Mishra is very sincere to the Bhutanese refugees and he cares a lot about them, and I have a tremendous respect for him for being so caring and loving to his people.

      The only difference between his writing and my writing is that he advocates “Zabardasti” (Trying to get something by force), or Daada Geeri (Being some kind of big shot). He obviously feels that Bhutanese refugees will easily remove the King of Bhutan from power and will enter Bhutan, sitting on top of Nepali or Indian tanks. That will never happen, because both Nepal and India back Bhutan government 100%.

      We need to face the facts and reality, and the reality is that Bhutanese refugees were unable to defeat the King of Bhutan in last 18 years, and now chances are that they still will not be able to defeat him in next 18 years.

      There is saying, “If you cannot fight them, join them”. So why not shake hands with the King of Bhutan, and chances are that Bhutanese will be able to get almost everything they want.

      Mr. T.P. Mishra needs to face the fact that majority of Bhutanese refugees are not willing to continue fighting and killing and are willing to end this conflict peacefully. I am sure, eventually Mr. T.P.Mishra will change his tone and will stop writing against the King of Bhutan. No offense to Mr. T.P. Mishra but I think he wants to be popular among Bhutanese refugees by writing against the King. He needs to understand the fact that he is basically a free-lance journalist, not a politician.

      I also like your view that this whole world is our land, and Almighty God is the creator of this entire universe. So not only Bhutan, but America also is our country.

      Let us forget what country we are from, and let us consider us citizens of this world.

      Bhutan is my country. Pakistan is my country. Nepal is my country. America is my country. Every country is my country, because I am a citizen of this world. My God created this whole world for me.

      All kings love their regimes, and would do anything to stay in power. So why we should hate the King of Bhutan if he does everything in his power to stay in power?

      Ask yourself, would not you be doing the same thing whatever the King of Bhutan has done and is doing?

      Bhutanese refugees need to put their “Weapons” down and stop hating their king. After all he is their king. If Bhutan is their country, the current king is their KING, and they must treat Him accordingly.

      If their king asks them to wear Bhutanese dress, and asks them to learn Bhutanese language, they must obey His orders.

      If you claim to be Bhutanese, you must not hate Bhutanese language and must not hate Bhutanese dress.

      I intend to go to hut to hut to meet with Bhutanese refugees in Nepali camps before visiting Bhutan.

      I definitely will wear Bhutanese dress when I will go to Bhutan to meet the King.

      I have feelings that the King of Bhutan will allow me to meet with him, and he will agree on accepting all of the remaining Bhutanese refugees, on my request.

      Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

  14. Mr. Shahid,
    There is no reason on my part to take your side– love king/ruler or write on his favor, when he is not loyal to people, simply to make your visit (a mere dream, though) successful. I always try to represent the voice of majority of “suppressed” groups, not the minoritiy if the latter is not genuine. Of course, a journalist’s duty is to take the middle-line. I have nowhere shown “meanness” to praise positive changes going on in Bhutan.

    “Not only that, I have intention of meeting with the King of Bhutan, in near future, to convince him to allow Bhutanese refugees to return to Bhutan with dignity and honor. In order to do that, I must maintain my position as nutral. The Government of Bhutan will never allow me to enter Bhutan if I declare Bhutanese regime as an “Evil Empire.”

    If you are that much bold to meet the King and make a request, there is no need you should play a tactics like meeting him in “disguise”. In what capacity are you meeting him, though? When you lack adequate research on ‘why we were refugees’, your visit would be to take King’s side. You have already reflected this clearly. Looks like you don’t want to learn about the other side of Bhutan, I mean the other side from one of your statement that says “Bhutanese people worship their king as God.”

    I praise good activities of King/ruler and will continue to do so but I will never compromise with indirect requests, an attempt to manipulate a journalist, to change his tone in regard to brutalities we entire Bhutanese refugee community faced. Until the community feels that they get justice to such things, I believe a journalist’s pen will continue to slap the doers.

    Do u want a journalist to stop writing about;
    – Killing of people in Bhutan
    – Injustice to people
    – Suppresion on minority ethnic group
    – Use of almost the army-rule to evict people from Bhutan
    – The fabricated concept of Gross National Hapiness
    – The goverment’s tactics to derail the repatriation process
    – The regime’s contineous intention to deceive the International communities about democracy and human rights in the country

    and many more………..

    If a majority voice within our community, not from others, come out with the thought that you have now, for sure, any journalist’s role/duty will be to take their side provided still they remain in “middle-line”. I am clear to what I am doing.

    Finally, it is never the role of a journalist, whosoever, to take the ruler’s side when the latter is not sincere to resolving the crisis. This will prove that the journalist is manipulated by the rulers or is not profession-driven. But, it is the role of a journalist to praise/back up positive changes the rulers bring in.

    When you are studying about Bhutanese politics, I guess you are aware about Nepalese politics. Dozens of journalists who wrote in favor of King’s take-over in Nepal finally had to change their profession. This is because when the King was ousted, public stood against such so-called “professional” journalists. Taking the side of the majority voice is above everything for a journalist when the country sees political turmoil.

    I also salute your patience to learn not only about Bhutan or Bhutanese refugees, but also about “ethics of journalism” herein in the discussion.

    Thank you for your comments, sir!

    Regards,
    TP Mishra

    • Dear TP Mishra:

      I am disappointed to see that have refused to change your tone and you have refused to work for peace between His Royal Majesty Jigme Singye Wangchuck, and Bhutanese refugees.

      No matter how much you hate the King, the whole world including the United Nations, The European Union, The SAARC and all other international organizations and the governments around the world, recognize him as legal ruler of Bhutan.

      If you want some thing from the King, you must ask him nicely and politely. But by insulting him, you are not going to get anything from him. You continue calling his regime an “Evil Empire”, and Bhutan Government will never allow you to enter Bhutan.

      Come shake hands with me, change your tone from inflammatory and instigative to reconciliatory, start writing for peace between the King and Bhutanese refugees, and I promise you, I will do my best to convince the King to pardon you, and allow you to enter Bhutan.

      And please stop talking about killing. Enough blood already has been shed. Some 14,000 lives have been lost on both sides, so why someone should continue talking about killing?

      Please ask yourself a question, ” Am I being fair, balanced and honest or being one-sided and biased journalist”?

      By the way, do you still believe that I am in fact a Bhutanese national and my real name is something else other than “Shahid”?

      Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

  15. hi guys,

    keep up doing great things.

    thanks
    kurzon

  16. Admin Bhutanusa@com:

    I am thankful to you for deleting indecent words used by a visitor named Ishwor Dhimal.

    Not long ago, I was emotionally hurt when a visitor insulted me and used vulgar language just because that person did not like my comments that I posted on Bhutanusa@com.

    Now, I am happy to see Bhutanusa@com protecting me against personal insults. Bhutanusa@com has met its moral and legal obligation of providing its readers with a harassment free environment where all readers can express their views without being insulted, harassed, intimidated or threatened. I salute
    Bhutanusa@com’s administration to express my appreciation.

    I also would like to offer my apology to both Ishwor Dhimal and T. P. Mishra if my comments have offended them. I never meant any harm to any reader. We are here to express opinions. Not all readers have to agree with me. Agreeing or disagreeing is the beauty of sharing views. But we do not have to lose our temper if someone presents his/her opposing views.

    One visitor named T. P. Mishra is almost 100% sure that I am a Bhutanese national. Another visitor named, Ishwor Dhimal does not feel that way, and feels that I possess less knowledge than a 5-year old Bhutanese child. This is a contrast and contradiction. And this is the beauty of sharing opinions. I respect both opinions.

    I have never claimed to be a Bhutanese national or being a Bhutanese refugee. Many readers of Bhutanusa@com know the fact that I have honestly and openly declared my ethnic background many times in my previous comments posted on Bhutanusa@com.

    I have never visited Bhutan or Nepal in my life, and I am proud to be an American citizen of Pakistani origin.

    While I am sympathized with Bhutanese refugees for being through a lot, I just cannot hate Bhutan’s king, because he also has his own reasons to justify his actions, just as Bhutanese refugees have their own reasons.

    Not only that, I have intention of meeting with the King of Bhutan, in near future, to convince him to allow Bhutanese refugees to return to Bhutan with dignity and honor. In order to do that, I must maintain my position as nutral. The Government of Bhutan will never allow me to enter Bhutan if I declare Bhutanese regime as an “Evil Empire”.

    I also intend to visit Bhutanese refugees camps before visiting Bhutan. To win Bhutanese refugees hearts, I must refrain from criticizing them, and blaming them for being responsible for creating refugee crisis.

    I think Bhutan’s king and Bhutanese refugees need to stop hating each other. Both parties must stop pointing fingers at each other if both parties are sincere in resolving refugees’ crisis.

    Both parties must forgive each other and should start a new life. Most Bhutanese refugees already have arrived USA and few other countries, and have gotten almost everything what they dreamed all their lives, so why they should still hate the King of Bhutan?

    Bhutanusa@com’s editor, Mr. Tilak Poudel wrote an article, “Stop hating, start loving”, few months ago, and I think he was right. The Government of Bhutan and Bhutanese refugees need to forget and forgive, and must stop hating each other and must start loving each other.

    I also suggest Mr. T.P. Mishra to stop writing anything that creates hatreds and hostility between the King of Bhutan and Bhutanese refugees. He needs to change his tone, and he needs to start writing something that creates love, friendship and harmony among Bhutanese Government and Bhutanese refugees.

    God Bless all people of Bhutan and all people of Nepal.

    Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

    Dear Mr. Shahid,
    ‘Stop Killing, start loving’, a write up that appeared in Bhutanusa.com some two months ago was jointly contributed by all the reporters not only Mr. Tilak Poudel. Thanks for appreciating it though.(Admin)

    • Hats off Mr Pasha. I really appreciate your thoughts and I admire you too. You’re indeed good at judging anyway.
      Journalism isn’t the job to pinpoint only the one side’s mistake. Should deal equally! I hate King but I hate our leaders more than that. Politics is Bullshit! affects in everyday life for the people like me very badly. Had we not been fled from our country, I wouldn’t feel emarrassed infront of my friend when the question about nationality arises. ( I felt this after I am being resettled (amongst one of the 7 countries).
      Let leaders( or anyone) shut the hell up your mouth and quit the dream of returning Bhutan after we’re being resettled.
      I just wanna say that, just anyone please stop writing or yelling those speeches or write ups , which does nothing than increasing more hatred than what we have now between us( Bhutanese living inside and refugees, to be honest).
      everyone, feel free to like and dislike my comment.
      Hail our nation( whichever either if someone prefers Nepal or Bhutan..whatever…………..!
      Thanks.

      • Both thumbs up Mr Pasha,
        You are right. I love to read your comments because you are just and fair in judgement. Your comments are very much informative and clear. At the most, you neither take side nor your language is offensive. I appreciate you Mr. Sahid and admire you much.
        Every one of us whosoever visiting the site are contributing some knowledges by sharing openions. I think @bhutanusa.com has provided a big platform to express feelings/openions to its reader from all over the world. It is awesome. However, to produce an offensive language in the name of someone is directly the misuse of ‘freedom of expression’. To presice more openly- It is the violation of fundamental rights. Some of the offensive comments herein are simply senseless and baseless. It is crazy…Looks like bullshit.

        Honestly, I appreciate Mr.Mishra for the article. I like this weighty article because it has openly critisized the RGB for being over smart/tacticle in ploying refugee issue as it is. Atleast, the acts being taken to us has been focused to the international community. I should say- good job Mr. T.P. !! You can do much more than this. Keep going.. Good luck.

        • i didnt get it though! I felt like you are tryna say directly upon me?? are you?? I am bit confused since I have had to used the word “Bullshit”. which is bad in someways but is not an offensive( i think). However, if you feel like I have offended you can sincerely say it openly . I wouldn’t mind. But do not never ever ever ever use the sarcastic tone please!

          • Hi Anonymous,
            When I read your comment, I am like, OMG, me …my tone …..sarcastic……..!!!!
            Can you please point out what word/words or sentence/sentences made you feel my tone sarcastic ? I think, my language is clear and open. If you didn’t catch up, I have nothing to say. I would rather request you, please refer the comment(s) once.

            I know, you, me and everybody who takes the helpful and positive criticism as a way to improve self, likes the constructive and informative comments. However, if comments are directed to abuse somebody’s personal career of life,then it is not a comment/critism. It is rather misuse of rights of expression. And as per your comment is concerned, I appreciate you. You are never offensive or distructive. You are always good man. So, how do think that I have directly pin pointed you? If you have read out all the comments,you might have figured out some of the baseless and senseless comments herein. Forget about that S— word yar, it comes sometime to control self aggression. However, I humbly thank Sahidji for the suggestion.
            Regards ,
            Pardeshitara,buffalo,NY

            • that’s fine Pardeshi tara jee. Thanks for your kind clarification. I assure you all that I wont use S- words in coming days. I would like to thank Mr Pasha before i forget for giving such a good lesson. thanks for eye-opening.
              go ahead. I mean to give constructive comments.
              cheers!

              • Dear Anonymous:

                I am glad to read that you have decided not to use S words on this website any more.

                We are all human beings and we all make mistakes in our lives and then regret later. However, admitting your faults, shows you are a great person and a person with morals and values.

                I also made a mistake and used words “Zabardasti” and “Daada Geeri” to characterize Mr. T.P. Mishra’s writing in my previous comments, and now I realize my mistake. I offer my sincere apology to Mr. T.P. Mishra, and I take those two inappropriate words back. As a matter of fact, I did not mean to use these words, but I meant to say was that now, Bhutanese refugees should use a different approach and a soft tone dealing with the king of Bhutan, instead of using the tactics of putting political, moral, journalistic, international pressure, and other forms of pressure on Bhutan government.

                Tara Pardeshi from Buffalo, New York, is a good writer and I do not think he intentionally tried to attack your personality. Probably, you had a reason to suspect that Tara Pardeshi jee was being sarcastic, but now Tara Pardeshi has denied doing that and you should accept that clarification.

                I strongly agree with Pardeshi Tara Jee’s opinion that positive criticism helps improve skills.

                Thanks again to Pardeshi Tara Jee and Anonymous Jee for admiring my comments.

                Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

        • Dear Anonymous:

          Who are you talking to?
          Padeshitara?

          Both of you are great writers, and I appreciate both of you admiring my comments.

          With all the respect, let me express my opinion on using the word, “Bull S—-“. In my opinion, it is is not polite or civilized word.

          American pop music singer, “Madonna”, once was being interviwed on nationa TV, few years ago. She kept using the word, “Sh–” during the interview. The person who was asking her questions warned her in a strong tone and said, “If you use that S word one time, I will have to ask you to leave”. Madonna immediatley admitted her being wrong, offered an apology and promised not to use word “Sh–” any more.

          The use of word, “Sh–” is considered bad, dirty and unsuitable for minors and is banned on TV and radio all over America.

          Many people in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal and other third world countries who blindly follow American culture, use this bad word on media all the times, thinking it is OK to use this word.

          Bhutanusa@com has not deleted this word, obviously considering it acceptable.

          I suggest Bhutanusa@com to delete word “Sh–” in the future.

          Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

          • I appreciate Mr. Pasha about your opinion on those english words. Anything like “Sh_ _ ” is always bad. if you add “bull” which conveys arrogance or stubborness is not good either.

            I am totally against using bad or offensive words. Let younger generation (resettled ones included) not use these words. Ofcourse we cannot stop them from verbal use but in forums Administrators can.

            More than arguing about triffles, people should use these forums to concentrate on the ISSUE of what Mr. Mishra has written. Isn’t because of the letter above that we are all criss-crossing comments..!!!!

      • Dear Anonymous,
        You wrote that “Journalism isn’t the job to pinpoint only the one side’s mistake.” yes, there is no any point to argue with this. I also stand by your side. Journalism is a discipline that always speaks the truth prevailing around.

        It is very normal on your part to be aggressive towards leaders, who have often, in many contexts, failed to drive the movement’s engine to a logical end from a right track. In case of our success in “united voice”, for sure, we will reach the destination.

        Thank you for your beautiful comments!

        Regards,
        TP Mishra

        • yeah I strongly agree with you sir! whatever other say but please do not ever never be distracted from your destination. You are the only one to raise our( Bhutanese people’s voice through media ..etc etc…) precisely through you outstanding articles. I used to , still and will forever believe on you , for sure you’ll be able to accomplish the goals . We respect YOU. We rely on YOU. We hope from YOU. We support YOU. We could discourage YOU too for sure because we Admire you.
          Jai Motherland!

    • About the issue of true identity, i feel Mr. Shahid is true enough and making his points clear while commenting. The only problem he has is ‘ less knowledge about the causal factors of southern bhutanese fleeing the country in 90s’. I, am not an extremist, but in problem though, would suggest Mr. Pasha to learn more about the issue. Even many bhutanese in Bhutan born after 1985 or so have feelings of hatred about people in camps. And the reason is clear- they have been reading / hearing time and again that these people are bad, anti-nationals, Ngolops, killers etc. So unless you research, your points could fetch more criticisms.
      About meeting bhutanese king, you could do that more easily than any of your nepali counterpart.
      I appreciate your interest on bhutanese refugees but your friends in USA are probably not old enough to feed you the actual information on the subject.
      I too appreciate ‘Stop Killing, start loving’

      • Dear Nationality:

        Thanks a lot for admiring my comments.

        I have many Bhutanese refugees friends resettled here in USA who are over 40. Many of them have stayed behind the bars in Bhutan jails for many years.

        Many of my young Bhutanese refugee friends resettled here in USA are too busy to talk about politics of Bhutan and Nepal, because they are busy watching Indian movies on DVDs, or chatting with friends on line almost 24 hours a day/7 days a week.

        However, I will do more research on Bhutan/Nepal politics to increase my knowledge.

        Thanks for your advice.

        Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

    • Hey TP Mishra,
      The majority is always with you. Keep up such writing stuffs!

  17. Dear Mr. Pasha,
    Nice to see your coments here in this site. But i am not satisfied with your interruption on certain matters about the Bhutanese refugee crisis.
    There is difference between seeing, experiencing and hearing from others. We, as a victims of the royal government’s rude behavior have experienced a life that is far different than you have lived. We have a deep knowledge of the history of Bhutan-who is Bhumpa, where is Tek nath and to what direction the fate of the general Bhutanese is being directed now. On the other hand you as a Pakistani-american(As you said ) have just acquired inch-deep information from some Bhutanese about their problem. Therefore, its not the high time for you to act as though you have enough knowledge about the Bhutanese politics. Do you know who is the PM of Bhutan? You can share about the lives in america after resettlement but not about what and who and how things agout bhutani political arena. Much as you try you can’t bcoz you have lesser knowledge about it, even less than what a five years old Bhutanese refugee child has understood about the bhutanese refugee problem.
    Ishwor Dhimal

    Some portion of this comment is deleted due to the use of indecent words. Readers are suggested not to use vulgar and offensive words while commenting, please. (Admin)

    • Yes, I know the name of PM of Bhutan. Mr. Thinley.

      You are right, I will never have enough knowledge to know all about Bhutan. However, you should not compare me with any 5-year old Bhutanese kid. Ask a Bhutanese 5-year old kid the same question you asked me,”Who is the PM (Prime Minister) of Bhutan? And obviously that Bhutanese kid will never be able to give you correct answer.

      Some Bhutanese people living in Bhutan do not have enough knowledge on local politics, or they do not even try harder to learn everything about their country.

      Anyway, thanks for commenting on my comments.

      Mr. Shahid M. Pasha
      Westfield, Massachusetts, USa 01085

  18. Dear Mr. T.P. Mishra:

    Many thanks for your response to my comments.

    First of all, I take issue with your statement, “the time it was published was very appropriate to slap the regime’s face for its deceiving school of thoughts”.

    In other words, you wrote that article just to slap the Bhutani regime?

    I would never write an article just to slap someone who I do not like personally. I think a journalist should present the facts and nothing but facts, and should refrain from fabricating a story just to slap someone.

    Please let me explain the difference between a refugee and an illegal immigrant, because it appears that you were confused when used the word “Refugees from Pakistan”.

    If someone crosses into another country’s territory without a visa or proper documents, he/she is called an illegal immigrant, not a refugee.

    There is a huge difference between being a refugee and being an illegal immigrant. A refugee lives in a camp, but an illegal immigrant must live in a jail. A refugee is never arrested but the host government provides him/her all the help it can provide to help him/her.

    There might be some illegal Pakistani immigrants being detained in Nepali jails, but I am sure there is not a single Pakistani refugee living in any camp in Nepal.

    I have been told that the King of Bhutan loves his people, and many Bhutanese people love him so much that they worship him as their God.

    I already have identified myself and I think you owe an explanation to the readers of Bhutanusa@com.

    A journalist should never bargain like, “If you reveal your true identity, then I will explain my position to you, otherwise, I will not explain my position to you or to the readers”.

    Mr. Tek Nath Rizal and Dr. Bhampa Rai were assets to the Government of Bhutan. Dr. Bhampa Rai was “Special Surgeon” to the Royal Bhutanese Family. Mr. Tek Nath Rizal served Bhutanese Government as Cabinet Minister and he was awarded many other high-ranking positions in the government.

    He, himself left Bhutan, because probably he wanted to be a “Hero” and a “Leader”. He was chained and handcuffed and brought back to Bhutan and imprisoned for almost 10 years. Dr. Bhampa Rai should be thankful to the King of Bhutan for not having him arrested and imrisoned in a jail in Bhutan.

    I suggest you visit Mr. Rizal in his beautiful, large and expensive house in Katmandu and say my Hello to him, and tell him I said that he might become new Prime Minister of Bhutan in 2011 or 2012. Mr. Tek Nath Rizal should start talking to Dr. Bhampa Rai and other senior Bhutanese refugee leaders to form his possible future cabinet.

    I am a friend of Bhutanese refugees resettled here in the United States, and anywhere else. I am also friend of those Bhutanese refugees who are still living in the camps in Nepal. I will be very glad to see almost 85% of them being resettled in USA and other countries.

    Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

    • Mr Shahid ji,
      Namaste! I salute the way you argue with an opinion in the article. That’s a great point of yours, thanks! For years, even Bhutanese refugees were not formally called as “refugee”. In many contexts, the host country, if you happen to read well about refugees, illegal immigrants, internally displaced people etc, often deny to accept people of other countries as refugee.

      Today, thousands around the globe are refugees but still without being called as “refugees” in a formal way. Even when the host country counts them as “illegal” immigrants, in many contexts, the org such as the UNHCR or those advocating on favor of “such people” still call them as “refugees”. Frontline media, in such cases, too might stand on favor of the UNHCR. Becoming a formal refugee, mainly count in by the UNHCR takes a bit of time. No where you will find that the UNHCR office in Kathmandu calls those “illegal Pakistani immigrants” in Nepal as “illegal immigrants.”

      We did not enter Nepal in the capacity of “refugees”. At least plus 30,000 Bhutanese still leave in India, though not in the capacity of refugees. But all of them are, however, “refugees” from Bhutan. This does not mean we are illegal immigrants. A person entering another country illegally due to fear of genuine persecution, for sure, is likely to be called in “refugee” with the pace in time when he/she fulfils the criteria eligible for “becoming a refugee.”

      A best example for this is; entry of Tibetan people, might not be all, in Nepal in illegal way but yet they are being called as “Tibetan refugees.” They don’t have formal “camps” as like what you mention to prove me wrong. A majority of them dwell in Kathmandu; most of them own big business companies in Jwalakhel in Kathmandu. In your definition, these people should not be called as “refugees”, which is solely illogical, sir! There are our Sharshop fellow mates in Baudha in Kathmandu—being called as refugees even by the concerned agency and authorities.

      I am not the concern person/authority to prove if “those illegal Pakistani immigrants in Nepal” are refugees. I can, however, say that they might be “illegal” in the eye of government of Nepal but might be “refugees” in the eye of the UNHCR.

      As far the issue of journalist’s duty and obligation is concerned, I believe in what I am doing—playing with facts. It is the role of a journalist to slap the face of government when it is deceiving facts in the name of “democractisation” and it is the role of a journalist to praise for good works of government or anyone. The first para of my letter to the PM is self-explanatory, sir.

      “A journalist should never bargain like, “If you reveal your true identity, then I will explain my position to you, otherwise, I will not explain my position to you or to the readers.” I have a long experience of managing a news site. One of the bitter truths I ever experienced is “many like to hide their identity” in baseless debates. It is the right of the commentator to hide his/her identity but is always good to comeforth with true identity if you have a genuine topic to be discussed, not the one aimed at dragging the journalist to illogical debate. If that was a “hearttouching” blow and in case if you had revealed your true identity, let me not be too mean to ask for SORRY, sir.

      “I have been told that the King of Bhutan loves his people, and many Bhutanese people love him so much that they worship him as their God.” hehehehehehehehehehe! wow! wow! Those telling you this way opted for a misleading tactics. The reality is different. If really you are not a Bhutanese national, please be noted that a majority of Bhutanese people don’t really worship king as god. That’s a falcifyin statement from those who informed you about Bhutan.

      “I suggest you visit Mr. Rizal in his beautiful, large and expensive house in Katmandu and say my Hello to him, and tell him I said that he might become new Prime Minister of Bhutan in 2011 or 2012. Mr. Tek Nath Rizal should start talking to Dr. Bhampa Rai and other senior Bhutanese refugee leaders to form his possible future cabinet.” wow! wow! wow!

      Dear sir, how darely you could suggest me to represent you and go to see Rizal in Kathmandu just to pass on your HI and HELLO? If in your definition it means as a role of a journalist, I have nothing to do. The more you write these sorts of “laughable” sentences, the further you maintain in you the potentialities of weaknesses.

      Please just bear in mind that ‘The Kathmandu Post’, where my article appeared, is a largely circulated national dailies with skilled and experienced editors, thus, they never make blunders by accepting an article with distortion in facts. Had it not been “Pakistani refugees”, they will either chop it out, get back to me to prove it, or simply reject the article—this is the norm of true journalism, sir!

      Above all, I really respect and love the way you opted for to debate on the issue in the same media where it got published, I mean bhutanusa.com. You might want to write me at: twmnbhutan@gmail.com to get my phone number and other details should you wish to talk in person and discuss on the issue. In case if you are not Bhutanese, please come to my personal e-mail; we can exchange number and talk on phone, I will try to tell the truth.

      Let me repeat, I am always open for constructive debates or criticisms.

  19. gud job bro ho..
    keep it up

  20. Hi Shahid,
    Thank you very much for your beautiful comments. I doubt if your real identity is “Shahid”. For sure, the way you wrote leaves a clear message that you are a Bhutanese national. I would rather always request you to comeforth with your true identity. This will explore many ways to interact for all these sorts of stuffs.

    Until u wish to mention your true identification, I just wanted to make clear that “Pakistani” refugees too live in Nepal. Issue of border-share is nothing in context of Nepal. I had the chance to meet some Pakistani and Somali refugees protesting in front of the UNHCR office in Kathmandu sometimes in 2008.

    As then journalist associated with the Nepal FM in Kathmandu, I talked to them for about an hour to learn their issues. Honestly, I can’t mention ‘how many’ but a Pakistani refugee, who had a fluency in English, also calling himself as the “leader” therein mentioned about a hundred to the maximum.

    So far of my mention of Pakistani refugees in Nepal, I don’t believe I drag it to our politics.

    Fact is always a fact. No where I have tried to drag Pakistan to our politics. If u happen to meet a Somali refugee in Kathmandu, his answer is— I entered Nepal illegally as its easy, safe and cheap too, thus, your concern of border issue, for me, is not logical, sir!

    Reports at times says In Nepal, the police have raided the apartments of Pakistani urban refugees on several occasions while searching for illegal immigrants. If you are looking for an authentic links, I will send you; comeforth with your true identity.

    Secondly, nowhere I have written about the role of SAARC. If you happen to read one of my comments here, meant to Amar ji, you will find my clear stance/opinion.

    Anyways, sorry for my decision not to comment on rest of your points due to doubt in your true identity. As a journalist, I am always open for discussion. Journalists are for criticism, thus, I never mind for what you wrote. They will indeed encourage me further. I always expect constructive comments from you, Shahid ji, thanks!

    I believe I made you clear on two of your concerns–SAARC issue and the fact that Pakistani refugees dwell in Nepal (be it legally/illegally).

  21. Responding to comments made by Mr. T. P. Mishra in his April 8, 2010 “An Open Letter To Mr. Jigme Y. Thinley” , “I would rather not feel odd to let you know that refugees from various countries including Tibet, Burma, Somalia and Pakistan, among others, too live in Nepal, I would ike ask Mr. T.P. Mishra where in Nepal, and how many refugees from Pakistan, live in Nepal?

    I strongly suspect that his claim is baseless. Pakistan does not share its borders with Bhutan or Nepal and the writer has unsuccessfully tried to drag Pakistan into local politics of Bhutan and Nepal. I am sure there is not a sigle refugee from Pakistan living in Nepal.

    The writer needs to understand the fact that The “SAARAC” has nothing to do with Bhutanese refugees or the people in camps in Nepal. I think pressuring “SAARC” is not an appropriate way of solving this problem. Only Bhutan and Nepal are the parties in this conflict, not Pakistan, Bangladesh, Maldeep or other “SAARC” members.

    I have reason to believe that none of the Bhutanese Governement official ever has called all of the people living in the camps in Nepal as “Terrorists”. Bhutani Government believes that many of those people living (Currently or previously) were unable to prove their Bhutanese citizenship, and that many of them were illegal immigrants from neighboring countries.

    I do not mean to take sides, but I have been told that about 17 years ago, the King of Bhutan begged fleeing people to stop, but they ignored his pleas and crossed into Nepal. I also have been told that when the King requested these people to start wearing Bhutanese dress and start learning Bhutanese language, they simply refused to comply with his request and presented their excuse that they were connected to their Nepalese roots and culture, not with Bhutanese culture. In other words, they refused to become a part of Bhutanese culture. I am not saying that this was the case, but this is what Bhutanese Government says.

    About 14000 people have lost their lives in this conflict and many of them died at the hands of those who opposed the King.
    These people fled Bhutan fearing their lives. They feared that their daughters, mothers, wives and sisters would be raped by Bhutanese Police and Army officers. And now , they wanted to cross back into Bhutan again? Why they want to go back to Bhutan now? Is it safe to go back to Bhutan now? Why do they think that now their lives will be safe if they cross Mechi bridge and enter Bhutan?

    Why many Bhutanese refugees resettled here in USA do not want to be called as Bhutanese? Why they preferred to be called “Nepalese”?

    I think this problem will be solved soon after the completion of resettlement of Bhutanese refugees, in next two years. There will be only about 10,000 or 15,000 refugees (Who do not want want to go anywhere else but Bhutan) left in the camps in Nepal, and I think the Government of Bhutan will gladly accept this many people back.

    I also have reason to believe that Mr. Tek Nath Rizal, Dr. Bhampa Rai or some other senior Bhutanese refugee leaders will be appointed as Prime Minister of Bhutan, to ensure the safety of returning Bhutanese refugees.

    Time has come to solve this problem with negotiations, talks and by peaceful means, not by making accusations against eachothers.

    Palestinians and Israelis fought bloody war against eachother for years and finally agreed to stop fighting and start talking.

    Pakistan and India fought four wars against eachother, and finally became friends.

    And this is what Bhutanese refugees in Nepali camps, Bhutanese Government and Nepali Government need to do.

    “Stop hating, and start loving” is the solution to Bhutanese refugees conflict.

    Mr. Shahid M. Pasha, Westfield, Massachusetts, USA 01085.

  22. Dear friends,
    Thank you very much for your appreciations. Amar ji, I feel the same way as you did but this letter has certain specific contents and the time it was published was very appropriate to slap the regime’s face for its deceiving school of thoughts.

    SAARC summit, to my knowledge, has nothing to do with our stalemante, though. Perhaps, when we target for such an occassion, it might raise awareness within the member states/participants. But had it been few days prior the submitt, I should re-structure the whole story.

    Thank you friends,

    TP Mishra
    http://www.tpmishra.com
    New York City

  23. Nice work Mishra Bhai. You are superb, buddy. Keep striving, you will certainly be a MAN tomorrow. I as a senior brother suggest you to continue your journalism in some college of NY.
    Bikram Dhimal
    TX

  24. It is really a great job T.P.ji. keep on doing the same always. we all bhutanese are on your side.

  25. Dear T.P. Mishra Ji, it gave me real pleasure to go through this letter. congratulation for your attempt and all the best for the future.

  26. Well, its a nice job Mr. Misra. Keep it up. But I think the article should appear some times in the third week of April when the SAARC sumit will be prettty closer then. How do you think Mr. TP?

  27. KUDOS, Mr. Mishra. Its real a pleasure to read your letter. Keep up your writing habits. You are such an unique and creative journo.

    Srijana Ghimire

  28. Mr Mishra’s article seems changed this time abundantly and seems really targeting one. Anyway its great great great………….

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